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A more powerful force

Show Notes

"It was so clear to me in that moment that the river was the more powerful force. It flowed on uninterrupted, no matter how many bombs went off. The bombs couldn’t affect the flow and trajectory and stillness of that river. It was more powerful than anything going on around it.
~Former CIA Analyst, Janessa Gans Wilder

Janessa Gans Wilder spent 21 months in Iraq during the war's most intensive fighting as a CIA Intelligence Analyst. Eight months in, "the futility, the violence and the confusion of war" left her feeling drained "emotionally, physically, spiritually." Then came the experience that changed her life direction forever: one that opened her up to a different possibility, a different way of seeing and being.

After listening to the podcast, check out the global peace-building non-profit Janessa founded after returning from Iraq: The Euphrates Institute.